Question on environments

[ubaldot]

I have seen that with hatch one can create virtual environments, but I wonder how does it differ from e.g.

python3 -m venv /path/to/new/virtual/environment

or

conda create --name myenv

[ofek]

https://hatch.pypa.io/latest/plugins/environment/virtual/

[D7x7z49]

@ofek Using hatch feels a bit cumbersome and lacks some of the concise and elegant features of python, of course, this is just a feeling. So it's just in discussions not issues, a feeling that's not particularly well-described.

[ofek]

all user-defined environments are already defined at the project level; what do you mean?

[D7x7z49]

@ofek The default virtual environment location should be within the project directory instead of a location in the user directory, especially when it's initially installed. The key point is the default location after installation. The key point is that after installing hatch, the initial default is <project_root>/.venv. This is the effect. Of course, I don’t know how to evaluate it, I just put it forward for discussion.

https://pdm-project.org/en/latest/usage/venv/#the-location-of-virtualenvs

[ofek]

The default will never change though I'm open to making it easier to configure. What would you recommend?

[D7x7z49]

@ofek I'm sorry, I can only express my feelings, which is a sense of discord with Python's simplicity. Such issues might be better addressed by product design experts. I hope to see more stateless function design in the future, and to manage the scope of the project directory as much as possible from the project's initial state. 😥